Welcome to the Spunky Spirit Podcast. I'm your host, Psychic Medium, Cari Mugz. This
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you never miss an episode. Hello and welcome to this episode of Spunky Spirit. I am Psychic
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Medium, Cari Mugz. This time, this episode, we're going to talk about when your spouse
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or your significant other or someone important to you in your life is not on the same spiritual
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frequency as you. I'm not saying this in a, "You're a better person than them." It's
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just that spirituality is such a, what I mean by not same frequency is because nobody's
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ever on the same frequency and nobody's more superior than anybody and nobody's inferior
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than anybody. But we all are at different points of our spiritual journey. And sometimes
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when we are with somebody or our significant other or our loved ones don't, when I say
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not same frequency, they don't have the same beliefs or they're not going through the same
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spiritual awakening or maybe they're in a religion that believes differently and you're
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having all of these awakening experiences and you're having all these downloads and
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these aha moments and such a big change is happening in your life and you believe, you
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believe in, you start believing in things that, you know, mediumship and psychic and
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past lives and Akashic records and the person you are with is not or does not believe in
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that stuff. And so how do you navigate that? And how do you get through that? Because I've
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had lots of people that have, you know, messaged me and said, "My spouse is not on board with
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this or my spouse doesn't believe this." Or, "How do you do that when, when the people
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you love are not or don't, don't believe or not on the same page?" And so this is really
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a really hard thing. This caused, in fact, this probably will mostly be me sharing my
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own experiences with this because this was such a chaotic time for me when I was going
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through this because I thought that I was so crazy and I was a certain religion when
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my gifts started to come out again. So they were there when I was little, but I kind of
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hid them and I thought they were evil and I joined a religion to make them stop. And
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then I hit rock bottom and they came back tenfold and then they just kept going and
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going. And so I'm going to kind of give you a little bit of my experience so you kind
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of know what to expect or how you can navigate your own, right? Because I don't ever, you
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know, I don't ever want to condone marriages splitting or getting divorced over stuff like
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this, but I also don't want you to give up who you are. I want you to be authentically
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you and true to yourself. And sometimes you have to, you have to do that in a way that
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you have to be yourself without, without carrying what your significant other thinks
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or without letting that have a hold on you. So hopefully, hopefully your significant other
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is still, even though they don't believe what you believe or they don't are not on board
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with the same thing you believe in, hopefully they're still very supportive. Luckily, mine
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was supportive. I, so mine is totally on board now. My significant other parts of my family
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are totally on board. But when I first started doing this, it wasn't like that when I first
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started becoming a medium. Well, when I first started doing it as a profession, when I first
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started, which is crazy because when I met my husband now, when it was funny because
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he told me about a big foot that he had seen. And I was like, Oh my gosh, if you believe
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in big foot, but at the time when we then this is going to work. But at the time when
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we got married, I still was very much inside of a religion of a church that I was very
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determined to stay in because I thought that that those were the answers. I thought that
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that was that was for me. That was what I wanted to be. But honestly, I think it just led me
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to a part where it led me to this, it led me to the friends that I needed to have it led
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me to other things which led me to this. So even though it wasn't right for me, it was
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at that time. And so I want you to remember, everybody has their own journey. And even
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though what you believe in might not be right for them at this time, it will be eventually
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or they might come around eventually. So don't ever give up. But if it's getting to the point
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where you cannot be who you truly want to be, if you've done everything you can and you've
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done the counseling and you've done all the things and you still can't be authentic, then
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you might want to. But that's like last resort you might want to look into. What's best for
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you and your belief system. But that's like, that's like only if you've tried all the other
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things because I started feeling so guilty when I kind of started leaving or having disbeliefs
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in the church that we were going to because when we got engaged and when we got married,
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we made this commitment to each other and the church that we belong to was heavily involved
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in that commitment. And so when I started to figure things out by myself or figure things
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out that that weren't quite fitting with me or quite go and I started to tap into my my
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abilities and I started to tap into them stronger and I knew my direction was different. It
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was a little struggle for a couple years because I could feel him pulling away. I could feel
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him being stressed out about it because because of his past experiences and this religion was
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very deeply embedded in his family. And so I kind of just had to let him do his own thing.
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I knew I was going to do my thing. And at first we even kind of hid what I did from his
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family. And so because I didn't want any pressure on him or any stress, but it got to the point
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where they found out because it was just it was getting too big. And so he what what changed
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him is he was very supportive to me. And he he didn't really want me to quit my full time
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job to do mediumship readings. And I just finally was like I have to it's what I have to do.
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And I finally could prove to him that my mediumship readings were actually bringing in more money
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than my full time job. And then something happened at my full time job. And I because
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you know how when spirit or God says you are going to move so I had to force it. So something
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happened with some co workers and I knew it was my time to leave. And so I went in I started
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crying, he crying. And I said I can't do this anymore. He says it's okay if you leave not
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that it he was being bossy to me and telling me but I wanted to be we're in a relationship
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right and I felt just feel like that leaving my job, which because we had seven kids at
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home. So leaving my job and going to work going to do a different voc of a different
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job was something I felt like we needed to talk to you together. I wanted to be on I
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wanted him to be on board because I because I respected his I respected him it wasn't
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about him controlling me. If I just would have been like you know what I'm quitting
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and leaving he would have been scared to death but he would have honored me in that too.
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But we as a couple decided that that's what was going to happen. And so then he kind of
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saw that my business started getting bigger and bigger and bigger and more people were
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were tapping into my gift or loving my gift or or coming for healing and that's that that's
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a whole different thing but so then COVID happened. And because I could tell before
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that he was struggling he was struggling because I had stopped going to our church and he would
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still go and I know people would ask him all the time how is Kerry and I would feel sorry
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for him and all this stuff and I felt bad. And I did at times wonder if we were going
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to make it through it not because we didn't didn't love each other but because I knew
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it was important to him. I knew that this was kind of a thing that was important to
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the relationship and it was his life. It was something he was born and bred throughout
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his whole life. And so COVID happened and he we stayed home and he didn't have to go
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to church anymore. And then he started looking into what fit for him and what was and he
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realized that half of his most of all of his anxiety was gone and and he started to think
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well God shouldn't give us anxiety like any other spiritualist shouldn't give you anxiety.
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And so he kind of started looking into it on his own and he which has to happen you guys
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you can't push your loved one into a belief system. You have to let them do it on their
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own you have to let them do this journey on their own. You can't force them you can't
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tell them you can't you can't I mean you can you can say I mean you can give an ultimatum
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but at the same time they're just going to end up resenting you. You have to be able to
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let him has his faith journey or your spouse have their faith journey and you have your
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faith journey and hopefully you are helpful to each other and not vindictive not because
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spirituality is hard because it's such a huge thing in people's lives that it plays such
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an important part in some religions lives and in some spirituality lives and if you
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go to you know a very very religious person and say I believe in past lives I believe
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in star seeds I believe in they're going to think you're crazy and so but you're not
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crazy because this is your belief right if you if you can believe in those things and
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but they can believe in you know things that it's kind of hard because I don't want to
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put down any religion right but but if they believe in a spirit that come that they trust
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in it's just hard because I believe in Jesus I didn't make I didn't want this to be a religious
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thing I do believe in God and Jesus but I believe them in a different capacity than
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what normal religious capacities believe them in I believe Jesus was here to teach us what
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we are capable of doing and very much loves us but I don't feel like he was here to be
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worshipped and I feel like he was here to help and love and it is all unconditional and he
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does love but I just also don't believe that he is it has to be obedient it has to be his
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way it has to be you do it's a it's a hard thing but if your significant other does
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believe that then it can clash right in your relationship can clash and so spirituality
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might be something that you don't talk about for a while you don't talk about it even though
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it's super important your relationship is between you two and it's not something that's
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based on if it was started based on a spiritual foundation then that's going to be tough but
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if it wasn't based started based on a spiritual foundation and it was based on your love for
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each other then that's going to be a whole other ballgame so it just depends on how
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you know how your your relationship started now with me he did slowly start to believe
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he still started I mean he's still there some things we'll watch movies sometimes or a watch
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documentaries and they'll talk about different different aspects of spirituality and I'll
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be like oh yeah I know that and oh yeah I that's true and he'll be like what you knew
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that how can you tell me and I'm like because I didn't want to I want you to be on your
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own spiritual journey I want you to find it I don't want to just take my beliefs and throw
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them on you and make you keep them so so I'm not going to lie this is a really tough situation
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if you are in it and you are in it right now all I can tell you is just have patience and
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trust trust that this is your journey trust is that this is their journey trust that it's
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going to work out and if it does get to the point you know where you've tried everything
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and you've gone to counseling and you've tried to talk about it and it becomes almost a controlling
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thing then I would maybe suggest looking into where you're truly happy because you are here
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to find joy and even though your joy is not dependent on other people your spouse and
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your significant other has a whole big part of that and if they can't if they're if they
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can't at least accept that you you're on this journey and that you that your spiritual growth
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is different then that might be an issue because spiritual growth is so important to your growth
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and if that you've got someone that's holding you back or someone that's stopping you you
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can only be patient for so long right so so I just feel bad because I just remember the
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torment and the chaos that would be inside me when I first start coming out not only
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from my you know not only because I was so scared of what other people would think of
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me but because I I had promised I had promised my husband that I was going to be in this
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religion forever and that I was going to do you know it was based on that religion and
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so I didn't blame him if he didn't want to like stay in it if it wasn't going to be what
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he thought and so there was lots of conversations and lots of loving and understanding and I
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know there are people in our lives that think that I forced this on him or I subjected him
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to this but he did this all on his own I let him have his own journey and you know what
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I was very very blessed and very very very very very blessed that he came around or he
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he came into his own spiritual journey and we're still not on the same page we kind of
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are on the same page but there's still things he's learning that he's like oh my gosh that's
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still crazy and there's still things that I see from spirit or during your readings that
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or that I learned and I'm like ooh I'm not going to tell him that because he's going
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to think that's crazy and then like three or four weeks later he's telling me about
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this podcast he listened to you and this is what he found I'm like yes so sometimes it
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works that I mean a lot most of the time it's going to work out it most of the time it works
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out I promise you no matter how it ends it's going to work out but working out if you would
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have told me in the beginning that this was how it's going to work out for me back then
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I would have thought that's scary or that's not you know that's super scary but now it's
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like the best thing ever so have lots of patience with those people that are around you that
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do not don't ever let them demean you or belittle you because you ever believes or tease you
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don't give them that control and create boundaries there create boundaries that protect you so
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you don't feel like you're inferior or you feel like you're crazy because if they make
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you feel like that that's not okay but what you need to do is just maybe have lots and
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lots of talks about where you're at and where you see this going and if your spiritual significance
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or your spiritual beliefs have an effect on the bottom line of your relationship and or
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if it's something that you can deal with if it's something and you know and if you're
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a significant other says well I just don't want you to talk about it around me then that's
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okay don't talk about it don't talk about it around them and and if it has to do the
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where it gets kind of complicated is when it's your kids and you're kind of trying to
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teach the kids one thing and teach the kids the other thing and that's when that's why
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blended marriages and religions are really hard and and I feel bad because there is no
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one fits all kind of thing but at the end of the day the one thing that does matter
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is that you matter and it's not selfish it's that you need to be true to who you are and
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if that is sticking to your beliefs at whatever cost that means sticking to your beliefs at
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whatever cost and if your significant other doesn't allow that then I would look into
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you but you got to make sure too because you got to make sure that you are being supportive
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of his beliefs and supportive of so when my husband would still go to church or my husband
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still wanted to do certain things that that religion required I let him I let him do it
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because even though I didn't want to I let him him do his thing because I had to honor
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his spiritual beliefs so if you can get in a place where you can honor each other's spiritual
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beliefs but not make fun of them and not make somebody feel inferior because of them you're
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going on the right track if that does involve that you feel inferior or superior then that's
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when you've got to probably go to counseling or seek out some sort of middle ground and
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that's what's that's what's going to be the hardest but if I promise you if you have patients
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that will most a lot of times it will work out a lot of times that yours the you'll start
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to be on the same page or you'll just understand each other's you'll understand it with each
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other you'll understand where they're coming from and they'll understand where you're coming
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from if you have enough love for somebody that you can let them believe how they want
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and do what they want in far as far as the spiritual realm then then then it should be
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okay I know every situation is different and every and I was one of the lucky ones where
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I was supported even though the beliefs were different I was supported I was loved I do
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know that he kind of felt like maybe it was his fault he did kind of take on some of the
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blame of me not wanting to be part of it anymore part of this church or religion and he felt
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felt like it was his but that was because of past things that had happened in other relationships
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with him it wasn't about me and so you really have to work on it like that's why I think
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that counseling would be a really good idea someone that you can talk to about your beliefs
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and know that you're not crazy and understand you and be able to go home and and still be
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felt loved and listened to and heard and just know that sometimes you're not going to be
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able to share your experiences you're not going to be able to share you're not going
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to be able to share your experiences with your loved one because they're not going to
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understand so if you go to a past life reading and they give you this awesome reading and
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and you can't go home and share it with your with your significant other right because you
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know that they won't believe they'll think it's kind of stupid and but that's okay because
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eventually they will so I was kind of in the same boat with mine but then one day for his
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birthday I got him a palm reading he was very receptive he loved it loved it and that helped
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him go forward right because he was open-minded and and it was an awesome experience so be
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kind to yourself give yourself grace know that there are so many people out there that
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are going through the same thing but be honor their journey don't try and push them into
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anything that they're not ready for but make sure that they honor yours at the same time
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and and you feel honored so you might have to have those hard conversations and even though
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you might not be able to share all your experiences virtually with them yet then just know that
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you find somebody that you can find some like-minded people that you can be around that you can
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share your experiences and have the same kind of effect because that will help a lot and
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then you won't feel like you're so crazy so I love you guys so much and I hope that this
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helps because there's nothing harder I think than being with somebody or in a relationship
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that this is where you don't see eye to eye and I promise you there are so many there
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are so many so many relationships out there that are go that go through this that go through
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this because whether you are in a certain religion and have a faith crisis and one of
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you leaves and one of you wants to stay or if one of you has an awakening and the other
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one's not like on board with that or these new beliefs come in it's hard because awakenings
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change people faith crisis has changed people and so it's hard on the one that isn't changing
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because and it's hard on the one that is changing because there's a significant difference but
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I promise you if you work together and you have somebody who's very supportive and you're
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supportive of them you can work through this if there's somebody that is not supportive
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and will not see it then that's going to be a whole different story and that's going to
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be hard to be your authentic self and be who you truly are so you're going to have to do
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dig deep and see how you're going to navigate that because nothing's worse than going through
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life not being who you are authentically and so I'm just saying if if there's somebody
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in your life that's like controlling enough that they choose that for you then you need
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to maybe look at how that's going to affect you okay I love you guys so much and I'm trying
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to think I do have a class this week called step it up it's on Thursday night it's in
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Idaho Falls it is local I think I do have a few spots left so Thursday night from six
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to nine it's teaching you how to step into your power use your gifts define define your
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gifts and not be scared of your gifts and to be who you are be who you are and be able
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to to to connect to yourself and to spirit so and then the week after that I do have
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an online class learning about your guides and if you took my online if you took my guides
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class in locally then it's the same class you don't need to take it but if you couldn't
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take it and you want to take it from online if you're not local then that would be great
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so I love you guys so much and I will talk to you next week.
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