Welcome to the Spunky Spirit Podcast. I'm your host, Psychic Medium, Carrie Mugs. This
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you never miss an episode. Hello, and welcome to this week's Spunky Spirit Podcast. I am
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Carrie Modelston, and this week I have a special guest. So I kept promising and promising that
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I would bring on my husband because he has a couple of Bigfoot stories that are awesome
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and people can tell me if they want to hear them. So today I even sported the Bigfoot
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look. I have my big shirt, my Bigfoot shirt on, and my Bigfoot hat on. So first I want
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to introduce him. He's awesome. We met about 15 years ago, 15 years ago, and it was, I
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have to say that when I first met Aaron, he was awesome at telling stories and making
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me feel comfortable, and he made me laugh. That was the biggest thing. And he was so
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adamant about telling everybody about this Bigfoot story or these Bigfoot things. And
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at first I was kind of like embarrassed, but then I was like, well, I'm a medium. And he,
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so ideally we're going to be fine because, because I talk, I communicate with dead people
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and he saw Bigfoot. So honey, hello. Hey, how are we doing? I love you. I love you. I'm
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so grateful for you. I thought I was finally going to get to talk because I'm now very
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[laughter] I'm so grateful that you're here to share your, to share your stories, even
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though they made me laugh a lot of times. So, so you totally believe in Bigfoot then?
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I totally do. I mean, it's, it's crazy. I mean, we got to talk, I mean, these stories
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are, they've happened a long time ago. I think the first one is probably 17, maybe 16, 17 years
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old. But the crazy thing is, is don't, they're still like, like they're still,
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pretty vivid. I mean, that's something I remember like it was just like yesterday. And then the
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other one I was probably in my, I was probably early 20s. So yeah. Okay. And then I, that's
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the last time I've. So ever since then though, you've kind of had a big thing for Bigfoot.
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Oh yeah. Yeah. Like you totally believe in him. Yeah. Okay. So tell us, I think my favorite one
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is, well, tell us the one you want to tell us first. So tell us that one. I'll do it. I'll tell
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the, the one of those in my, when I was in my 20s, because I was out on a date. So I know,
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this is my favorite because you were out on the Rexford bench. So I went up on the Rexford bench.
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Okay. So just so everybody knows, that's where people go to make out. Right? Well, yeah.
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Maybe you do more. That's what you call it. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. So yeah, we went up through
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Rexford bench. There's a nice little place you can pull off by some spud sellers. It's nice
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to gravel area. And he's in my pickup. And so I just pull off to the side. And, you know,
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I always tell a story with my kids, you know, keep a little bit, you know, PG rated. So, you know,
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so when we, you know, I always air coat, we're talking, you know, apparently when you,
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you talk a lot, the windows fog up a little bit and stuff like that. And so I'd roll the windows
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down just a little bit of a crack. And so we're talking a little bit more. And this, this girl,
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I was wet. She goes, did you hear that? And I'm like, no, I didn't, I didn't hear anything.
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She goes, there's something outside. I'm like, no, I think we're okay. I think there's, it's fine.
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So, you know, we kept talking. And, and then she stops again. She goes, there it is. There is
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something outside this pickup. And I'm like, there is nothing out here. And I like, so I did the
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typical, you know, horror movie mistake. I rolled my window down and I stick my head out the window
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and go, see, there's nothing out here. And so, and then several just to crack, I only rolled it up
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halfway. And, you know, we started, you know, talking again. And, and I heard something right
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by next to me. And I'm like, well, that's kind of weird. And I'm like, and I mean, there, there's
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probably something out here. You know, maybe there's somebody out here messing with us and stuff like
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that. So I like, yeah, we probably should go. So, you know, had to turn the truck on, you know,
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had to let it defrosh it because we do a lot of talking. It's pretty foggy for some.
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I didn't know you had to let it defrosh. You can't see. And so, the window's all up,
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got all defrosted. So, and I'm kind of pointed this way. And so I'm going to come across
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onto the road and head back to town this way. And so right up in front of us, this way,
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is kind of like a just a huge field and stuff like that. And so we get ready and I come around
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and just as a pickup hits the field, just, just standing out, just right where my headlights
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probably would have ended, but just right where they kind of it stood a figure about over seven
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feet tall, covered in hair, red eyes just standing there. And she asked what color if it had colored
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eyes. Yeah, red eyes and she is freaking out. I mean, she's crawling up crying. We got to get
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out of here and I'm like, just holy cow. There's, I think that's big foot and you know, and I'm just
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trying to get this thing, you know, because it's a manual stick. So I'm trying to get it without,
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you know, popping the clutch and letting it die. So I was freaking out. So I just spin the tires
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getting out of there and got out of there as fast as we could. So, and then we went straight,
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back to our house, said good night and we left and that was it. And then we kind of talked about
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it later. But so, and there's no possible way that it could have been like a bear.
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No, no bear or somebody out there, because we're talking, we're way out there. There's like nobody
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out there. Just the way it was just weird how, you know, she could hear it for a while and I could
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hear it for a while. I just, and just when you see it in the headlights, there's just no doubt.
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So did it like chase you or did it just, you don't know? You don't even know. I didn't even look.
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I didn't even care. I was, I just sped. Yeah, it was just out of there. So funny. So did you
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believe in, but oh, you did kind of believe. I did because at the earlier, it was a different way.
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You know, we, you didn't see it that time, but definitely heard and smelled it. So it was really
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interesting. This time we didn't smell much, but you know, I was, this time is when you were younger.
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This is when I was younger. Yeah. So I was more like 17 friends and stuff like that.
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So I kind of tell you that sort of, this is the story that kind of got me a belief into that kind
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of looking at this stuff like that. And so, and you know, other things about, because I've had a lot
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of life experiences and stuff like that. It's maybe kind of believing this stuff. And yeah,
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especially, oh, I have a ghost story. Yeah. The ghost of my house too. I grew up with. And when I was
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a kid living in my parents house, there was a ghost there. My brothers would talk about it too.
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Just roam the house, going up down the stairs. So you kind of had had experiences.
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You kind of believed in it. Oh yeah. I've kind of believed in it all the time.
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So what was the first story, the first one where you kind of encountered Bigfoot,
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but you didn't actually see it this time. No, this time we didn't see it. So this is where,
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and this is where it really got me thinking, okay, there's some crazy things out here. You know,
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more to the world and I think what me see, I and people kind of sometimes have the blinders on and
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don't, some people want to, but there's other people that like to. So I have to ask you a question
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before you start your, before you start your things. So some people say that Bigfoot chooses
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to get to see him, like Bigfoot. And since you've seen like actually having encountered twice,
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do you think that there's like, and I, you know, as a medium, I've never experienced Bigfoot that
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I know of. Do you think that there's truth in that? Do you think there's truth in? I think there's
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some little truth to that because just all the experiences I've had in my entire life, you know,
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with the ghosts and stuff and with Bigfoot. Oh, you've actually seen skin walkers too.
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And then you guys, yeah, skin walker. I've actually seen skin walker in real life.
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I mean, probably from me to you kind of skin walker close. So that was,
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it was just crazy. And so I've had all these crazy things that happened to me. I mean,
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and then, you know, I meet you and get married to you. And then I have things that visit me all
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the time. And I just, I just tell them that I just kind of ignore them and tell them to go away.
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So I just explained to my listeners. So before we moved into an office, the reason why we moved
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into an office, I used to do readings in my house. We had a little room in the back to do readings in.
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At nighttime, like sometimes the spirits will come the night before to visit because they know
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there are people that are coming to get readings the next day or coming so they'll stay.
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So our room would freeze all the time, it would be so cold. And he would have experiences at night
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with some of the ghosts that, some of the spirits that were coming to visit others.
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Oh yeah, I'd smell like perfume that I know she doesn't wear. Remember that female one?
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Yeah, female one kept bugging me and I did. You're like, "Carrie, there's somebody here."
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And I believe if they know you're not going to pay them attention, they kind of leave you alone.
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So that's kind of what I did. I just kind of ignored them because I didn't, you know,
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right? Sometimes you just want to bug my... I know. Okay, so let's go back to the big one.
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Yeah, your first interview. So my first one, this is where, so it's, you know,
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call your teenage boys. There was like three of us and my friend's dad. I own some. It's up,
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wave up. I think it's in Chalice. He also don't somewhere. It's, it's crazy. I can't remember
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where it's at, but it's up in the mountains. He owns a claim and really, the only way to get to it is
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his, it's gated. And so the only way to really get is four wheel drive. I mean, we're talking,
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this is a sketchy road. And what do you use this mine for? So it's kind of a mine claim kind of thing.
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And he had, he's doing decorative rock. And so he's pretty much just doing rock frees for his house
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and some of the people in his family's houses. I think that eventually he was going to turn into a
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business, but I don't know if there ever went anyway. But anyway, so we, and he has this camp
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trailer that he parked up there. And because the roads are so bad, he pretty much leaves us up there.
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They can't move and stuff like that. So it stays up there year round and stuff. So he just winters
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eyes. So anyway, he had this huge boulder because they can't get cranes or big tractors up and stuff
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like that. So we had to make shift this, you know, pulley thing system that tried to get this one
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boulder he wanted onto the trailer. And so he needed, so my friend needed us and another friend and the
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dad and him all together. He had to get the help to, you know, get this boulder. And so, so this is
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the first time we've been up there. And so we went up there, you know, just get a mist around,
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then we got ready for bed that night. And then we was going to do the boulder thing in the next morning.
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But so it's probably, you know, teenage boys, we, you know, I felt bad for my friend's dad. He
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probably is wanting to sleep and we're just up talking. And I just probably let him through
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midnight. We're still just in the camper. And it's like August. So it's like hot. I mean, it's hot.
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So we have all the windows open the camper and we're just kind of talking and stuff.
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And then all of a sudden out in the distance, it was like, I'd say like a young male voice boy or
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whatever, a teenage boy just starts yelling. He yells at us. Really? Like, and you could tell it
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was male because a lot of times it's human. It almost sounded human. I mean, and then once we
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started, we stopped talking to listen for it. It would stop. Right. Okay. That's kind of weird.
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And then we'd start talking. You guys hear that, you know, we start talking to each other.
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And all of a sudden they'd go again, but this time it was closer. And then, uh, so then this
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smell, it was probably the most awful smell I've ever smelled my entire life. I mean, you're talking,
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you know, two week old gym short bags that's never been opened and washed.
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But what I find interesting is that you didn't smell in the second time. I know that second
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time we never smelt him, which is kind of weird. This time, man, it was like wet dog, dead animals.
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You know, it was the most and we, it was so bad we could not breathe. It was almost where you had
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to throw up. So we're closing all the, you know, the windows in the camper and just, you know,
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it was so hot, but we still had to do it. And every time we would start talking,
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it would just start yelling. It got closer and closer. And then when we'd stop to listen for
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it, it was quit. And it was just crazy. And we're like, there's no way anybody could be up here.
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There's no way. And so, so my friend's dad, you know, he's, he's, he's kind of interesting,
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you know, and he, he gets up, you know, he's, he's done with this and he, he grabs his shotgun.
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And he's, you know, I'm coming after you. You know, he busts open the camper door, he runs out,
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and then you hear something take off through the trees and, you know, again.
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So you actually heard it take off. Yeah, we had to take off. So we got up the next morning
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and went out and you can't, there, you couldn't tell us anything.
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I was going to ask if you saw anything in the morning because you've never talked about that
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part. There was nothing. There's no tracks. Yeah, there's no tracks, nothing. We couldn't find hair.
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We couldn't find broken branches. I mean, it was pretty thick up there too. I mean, it's a
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pretty thick thing until you get up on top of the mountain where the claim is,
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but where he's got the camper and stuff. I mean, it's thick trees, a lot of brush and stuff like
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that. And so, I mean, I made noise when it took off, but we went out and looked everywhere
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for footprints, anything like that. We couldn't find anything. So we talked about the whole day
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and as we're trying to, you know, what did the dad think? Did he see? You know, he, he
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wouldn't talk much about it. I don't think, you know, I think he, I think he knew what it was,
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but you know, I think, you gotta think this is back in what, late 80s or
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early 90s. Oh yeah. Late 80s, early 90s. You are older than me. I mean, I'm older than you. Yeah,
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you are older than me. So I'm in the 70s. You're in the 80s. No, I was born in the 70s too. That's
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true. That's true. Only three years difference. I'm only three, but still. So anyway, yeah, I think
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he, he kept to himself a little bit, you know, he doesn't want, you know, talk much about it,
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but we, man, we just talked about the whole time and we talked about it when we went back to school
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and stuff like that. And yeah, kind of left it there. And then, you know, I didn't really think
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much about it, but you know, I kind of was interested, looked into him, things like that.
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So, yeah, that's actually pretty cool. So I wasn't, I wasn't going to bring this stuff up. We hadn't
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talked about it, but do you mind? I forgot. I didn't forget because it's like a big part of you, but,
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but do you mind talking a little bit about the skin? I mean, when you went on your,
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well, I got one more big, for first story I wanted to say because,
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Okay, tell the big story and then we'll talk about it.
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Yeah. So my other friend, his brother, a lot of, you know, lives out in Roberts,
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had a very up in the Roberts area and that's kind of telling my stories and stuff like that.
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So I heard a story from a ranch hand that we just hired that used to work out in the Hamer area
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and used, you know, bailing hay and stuff like that. So his story goes and, you know, I don't know
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much because, you know, I get, I understand it's the second hand. So this is not me.
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Right, this is the second hand.
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This is the second hand. Right.
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Third hand, whatever you want to call it. This is,
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but it's just interesting. You trust the source, right?
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I trust the source. Yeah. Because, you know, he told me about,
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I told him about mine. So it's him telling me. So anyway, this kid, he's probably in his mid-20s,
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you know, out there helping Holland Hay, you know, and he's doing on a flatbed semi
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and he pulls up into the field. So he's got done, it's kind of dusk,
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Sun's kind of just coming down. He pulls into the field, check on things, check out the tractor,
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stuff like that. And he notices the tractor lights are on. He's like, Oh, that's kind of weird. So
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he pulls into the field, gets the truck up there next to the tractor. And the story goes,
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he sees this figure walking towards him towards his truck. And I was like,
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again, instead he's in the semi. So, you know, they're pretty tall. And this is how he explains
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that this figure starts walking towards him and it walks up to the window of the semi.
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And not even standing flat on the ground, not even standing on the running boards.
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It hits the window about chest level. So the thing, this thing can look right into the window
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of the semi. And he explains that as soon as it came up to the window, it calls him by his full
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name and says, are you scared yet? I'll say, so this kid's freaking out because, you know,
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and he explains it's covered in hair, same thing. Be red eyes.
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- Or I can't identify his name. - Yeah, that's the weird. I've never heard of that before. This is
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kind of a different one. Calling by his full name and it's covered in hair, smell, all that kind of
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stuff that you hear normally. And it just taunting him the whole time. And so he, he's trying to get
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the semi backed up a little bit and turned around and the whole time, the thing's just kind of walking
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with him. And as soon as he gets turned around and get up enough speed, the thing jumps up onto
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the running boards, just kind of hanging there and just sitting there calling him by name and just
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kind of says, are you scared yet? And he just, you know, mad, he's just terrified. Anyway, he gets
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out of the field and he gets up onto the road and he gets up, he said, he's got about 60,
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65 miles an hour in that thing. And the thing jumps off and starts running alongside of me on old
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fours. And as the fast rear went, it finally took off and headed off into the desert off and he,
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he says, the story goes that he drove directly to his boss's house, tells a story in tears,
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and says he quits and will never work out there again. - He just quit right then. - Yep,
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and never work out there again. - So do you, what was I getting at? So do you, what do you feel,
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or do you feel like, because we watch big foot movies all the time. - Watch big foot, you know,
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watch all these. - Do you feel like they're alien or do you feel like they're... - I think they are.
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I think there's no way they can disappear like that. I think there's portals around
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or some way that they're able to move without being detected. I think there's, there must be
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certain areas that they can move and transport themselves without being detected. - I kind of
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believe that too, because a lot of times when there's big foot sightings, there's orbs or there's
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some sort of like sightings around too. So I kind of believe that too. And I've heard stories too,
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where some are good and some are bad. I heard ones with red eyes aren't great, but some with
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yellow eyes are okay. They're like, right. So that's interesting. So what do you, do you think you
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are seeing? - You know, I always hope not to, because I hope it's not the word it's familiar
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enough that he comes up and talks to me. But yeah, it's crazy, the experiences and some of the,
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you know, the other stories that I hear about. It's crazy that... - Well, and the thing that
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crazes crazy to me is you will like, so even like when you start new jobs or you start when you meet
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new people, you'll tell the story. - I'll tell the story. - Because it's not like you're embarrassed,
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because it actually, you know, like you tell it with such confidence that you know it actually
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happened. It's not like, and the story never deviates. Like it always is the same story. There's no
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change in it, right? But you've also had experiences with skinwalkers, which you kind of don't really
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like to talk about a lot, because you feel like if it gives them attention. - Yeah, skinwalkers are
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different. That's a different kind of evil. And you know, there's a lot of, you know, legends out
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there, and you hear a lot of things about skinwalkers and the different things. - You don't have to
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tell the story if you don't want to, but ironically, I do kind of want my listeners to know that it did
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happen on your mission. - I did. It was on my mission. - You're serving in LDS Mission. - LDS Mission,
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Albert Kirk in New Mexico. This is out in Tisnass, plus Arizona, which is just south of four
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corners. It's just a little town. They have a trading post right there on the Indian Reservation,
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Navajos. And, you know, when I first went out there, my mission president's first thing he warned me
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about is skinwalkers. - Which is another awesome thing, because if the mission president had to
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worry about it, then it's like, you know, it's... - He pretty much said, "Don't talk to them." He says,
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"They are very evil. They'll try and talk into stuff." You know, talked about, you know, they
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could possess you and things like that. They're, I mean, their whole point, they like to tease,
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you know, missionaries. They like to tease the church people, stuff like that. In fact, the area
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I was going to actually had to be closed because just skinwalkers just messing around and stuff
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like that. And so they finally reopened it. And they sent me and my senior companion back out there
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to open the area back up. And so... - The thing that interests me the most about that, too, is that
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a lot of people that you taught or that you were... You're the people that you visited during your...
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They totally believed in... - Oh, they totally believed. All of them believe out there. And they'll tell
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you, "I have so many stories about skinwalkers out there." - So that would be like a whole
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another podcast. - That would be a whole another podcast. But it is crazy, some of the things you
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hear out there and the things that happen on the Indian Reservation, their true beliefs and stuff
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like that. - And it's interesting, too, that me and you are big fans of skinwalker ranch.
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- Yep. - And a lot of the stuff that happens at skinwalker ranch is exactly some of this stuff
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you went through or you experienced with Bigfoot and on your mission, correct?
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- Correct. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff. And you talk about frequency and all that kind of things.
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You know, you talk about me, "Oh, maybe I'm on a different frequency with some things."
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- Yeah, like a different vibration. - Yeah. And maybe they know that and they like to come check it out.
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But so, yeah, more about... I think I'd been there in this area. We'll tell it real quick.
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In this area. And it was our P-Day. We'd probably been there maybe two weeks, something like that,
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and kind of known some of the members. And a lot of the kids, it was on our P-Day, they wanted to go
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play ball. So they have this area. It's kind of a subdivision that the government provides for
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Native Americans, where they can live for free housing, stuff like that. Had a nice park and
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stuff like that. So we went there to go play basketball and kind of mess around and stuff
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like that. Anyway, we're there with the kids. We had to pick up stuff like that, took them down there,
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was playing basketball and also with the kids. And notice this wolf-like dog coming down the...
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You know, so we're right here. So the playground, we're at the blacktop, sorry, you're playing
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basketball. Then there's a road that goes out and then we kind of go around this way and head
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out to the road. Well, there's a wolf-like dog. You notice this and this kid immediately says,
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"That's a skin walker." And all the other kids look and they all start screaming.
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It's crazy that they already knew who they knew. They already knew. They knew.
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And so, you know, you get that, you know, on the back of your neck, your hair stands,
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you know, you knew something evil was coming. Yeah. And my companion, we all instantly... Let's get
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the truck. So he jumps in the driver's seat. I jump in the back of the truck with all the kids.
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And they're just crying. I mean, they're freaking out because they were out of shadow of doubt.
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They knew. They knew. They knew it was a skin walker. And so this wolf-like dog,
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he starts coming towards the truck and my companion gets all going. He gets started and
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starts moving while it comes around this side of the truck. And the weirdest thing is this thing
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just stared right at me. I mean, it would just kept staring the whole way as it walked. And the kids,
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every time they got this side of the truck, they're moving over this side of the truck.
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I'm trying and they're just trying to hold on to me to try to protect them. And anyway,
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he finally goes to the back of the truck as we get up speed and stuff like that. And it starts
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walking towards the truck and just kept walking. And if I hadn't seen it in my own eyes, I would not
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believe it to this day, but it started walking and then all of a sudden disappeared. That's crazy.
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I mean, I just, I don't know where it went. It just, it all says it. It's gone. Yeah, it's gone.
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It's completely gone. And it was the craziest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. And they,
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so they would never go back. Do you remember when, I'm not going to mention which one, but you remember
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when one of our sons had the experience of seeing a skin walker? Yeah. Like it wasn't very far from
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our house even. And didn't he come like running in the house terrified and said that he'd saw,
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like, and then what did he, he just saw this like wolf like, and then all of a sudden it turned into
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a human. Yeah. Yeah. He was terrified. Do you remember that? Oh yeah. Yeah. You know, they talk
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about, they do, they shape shift, they can turn into whatever animal most of them will turn into
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a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or a wolf or
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sea wolves. And then they would like, they would see wolves walking on their hind, like werewolves
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almost. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. So that's awesome. So you think that, well, I kind of hope,
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I mean, here's the thing. It's kind of a scary thing, but at the same time, I kind of hope we have,
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maybe not with skin walkers, but I kind of hope me and you have more adventures like that.
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Well, we have said we're going to do a lot more camping next year. So
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I know, but I get scared because I know, watching because you're a big foot magnet.
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You're like a big foot magnet. Remember I told you I didn't watch it because I was afraid if we
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were by ourselves. You said we're going to get abducted. That's what she said. You're an alien.
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They're going to come visit us. We actually should make our own podcast. We should.
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Because it would probably be hilarious. I would like find stories to tell you and you'd be like,
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what the heck? So, well, I am so grateful that you came on. We've been planning this for a long
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time. We have been. We've been talking about this like so long. And it's just been hard because
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we've been so busy with the last three months with redoing our house and the baby coming and
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the wedding, all that stuff. So, yeah. So thank you for coming today. You're welcome. Thank you for
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having me. Hopefully we'll do this again. I got so many stories. So, and one last thing before you
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go. Do you think just personality is a sight like marriage is marriage, but do you think that
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is it weird living with a medium sometimes? Like when I did,
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like when I did do readings in the house? No, I don't think so. I mean, it's kind of cool that
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how we met. I think everything was, it was meant to be and then it was a higher plane to make sure
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we meant. I met because I think, you know, with the backgrounds of me, you know, Bigfoot and
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seeing ghosts and stuff like that and you with your mediumship and stuff like that. I think it was
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just. I had to have somebody who believed in me. You had to have somebody that would believe in
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both. And so, no, it's been kind of cool. It's been really cool. It's been cool experiences. Like,
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I don't really ever share the readings with you, but it's cool that it's some of the experiences
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that we've had. So, I got to tell one. Okay, remember the X-Files one? So, me and Kerry grew up
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watching the X-Files back in the day, right? We loved X-Files. We're live and they said,
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remember they said come out with new episodes. So, it's just us, I don't know how we got a night
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without any kids there. Was I still doing readings in the house then? I think you were doing readings in
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the house. And so, we got went downstairs. We turned it on to watch some new episodes.
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Of the X-Files and there was a hall light that's just past the entertainment center and I went
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turned it off and it got set down and the X-File music came on and we just got to sit down and
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the X-File music, the music came on, remember, and then also the hall light turned back on.
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I looked at you and I'm like, that's kind of weird. So, pause the TV, go back up,
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I turned the hall light back off and I un-possed it and as soon as I un-possed it,
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the hall light came back on. So, I'm like, well, guess we're not watching this. So,
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we turned the lights back on and we never went back and we never watched X-Files.
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Because we listened to the signs like we know. Yeah, I think too we did have more activity in
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the house when I did readings in the house. Yes, definitely. Definitely. Yeah, and that's kind of
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why we moved to that's why we decided I had to get an office because we were having too much
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paranormal activity in our house. So, we moved my office and now I do have to admit I do when I
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come into my office every morning or when I come in, I can feel the spirits that are waiting for
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the people. Like when you're in my office, can you kind of feel the vibe? Oh yeah, I can tell.
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Yeah, you can feel it too. So, it's weird. You probably go, oh, there's that guy that ignores us.
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I'm like, hi, hi everybody. Yeah, you're hi everybody. They're like, I think I'm the grumpy old dude.
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Oh my gosh, I love you. Thank you so much for having me on and I'm sure that we're going to love
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this and we'll do more. Yeah, we'll do some more. Okay, okay. Love you guys and I hope that you enjoyed
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